tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post8691321501863582486..comments2023-06-26T07:09:15.225-06:00Comments on Love, Power & Fairytale Endings: Lying TweetsJeffe Kennedyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04779020656676094853noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-85651900567940819572010-12-03T20:38:00.596-07:002010-12-03T20:38:00.596-07:00Good advice, Julie. And Coors Light FTW!Good advice, Julie. And Coors Light FTW!Jeffe Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04779020656676094853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-35357290472586375952010-12-03T19:42:19.339-07:002010-12-03T19:42:19.339-07:00It was actually a pretty laid back, if opinionated...It was actually a pretty laid back, if opinionated on one side, conversation. I was sad that some people took this information as gospel. <br /><br />Always research information you get. Even established, reputable agents disagree on some things, but you can find out when it's completely off the mark.<br /><br />Tip: Coors Light makes conversing with some people more interesting.Julie Weathershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13725236516593676381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-15446318710818948802010-12-03T19:23:54.350-07:002010-12-03T19:23:54.350-07:00Ha! Very interesting, Victoria - *that* doesn'...Ha! Very interesting, Victoria - *that* doesn't surprise me a bit.Jeffe Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04779020656676094853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-29064325830459717952010-12-03T18:40:31.275-07:002010-12-03T18:40:31.275-07:00I don't know if I'll blog--not enough info...I don't know if I'll blog--not enough info--but I did post in the appropriate thread at Absolute Write (which I won't link to publicly in order to preserve everyone's anonymity, but anyone who wants a link can email me). <br /><br />BTW, that press that the epublisher is an imprint of? It has put out a grand total of 2 books, both with 2005 pub dates. So, not so established after all.Victoria Strausshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11993325726575944136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-82640094986255622122010-12-03T18:35:07.257-07:002010-12-03T18:35:07.257-07:00Thanks Kerry! I think that's exactly right - d...Thanks Kerry! I think that's exactly right - do the research, learn the agendas. If they match, party on. If not...Jeffe Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04779020656676094853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-37277874855403730772010-12-03T18:26:43.072-07:002010-12-03T18:26:43.072-07:00Great post, Jeffe. So important to remember that j...Great post, Jeffe. So important to remember that just because somebody is an agent, or an editor, it doesn't mean that they know everything. I would suggest that everybody has an agenda, and some of those agendas are not in the best interest of the writer. I think a lot of writers put publishing peeps on a pedestal, and everything they say becomes gospel truth. In reality, publishing professionals are fallible human beings just like the rest of us. Part of our job as writers is to do the research - and see where those opinions are coming from.Kerry Schaferhttp://www.kerryschafer.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-77949323704097309322010-12-03T17:59:45.320-07:002010-12-03T17:59:45.320-07:00That's a good point, Allison - every definitio...That's a good point, Allison - every definition of success differs. Makes it even more important that it's our own definition.<br /><br />Interesting to know you're not surprised, Victoria. I'll have to watch Writer Beware to see what you put up. Thanks for your terrific service to the writing community!Jeffe Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04779020656676094853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-87070284622409135312010-12-03T17:37:55.386-07:002010-12-03T17:37:55.386-07:00Never mind, I figured it out. Let's just say I...Never mind, I figured it out. Let's just say I'm not surprised.Victoria Strausshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11993325726575944136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-4141644139762583162010-12-03T17:36:58.769-07:002010-12-03T17:36:58.769-07:00Victoria Strauss from Writer Beware here--I'd ...Victoria Strauss from Writer Beware here--I'd love to know who "eTom" is (in total confidence). Please contact me at beware@sfwa.org. Thanks! And thanks for making such good points in this post.Victoria Strausshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11993325726575944136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-40403759130006615822010-12-03T12:02:38.363-07:002010-12-03T12:02:38.363-07:00Heh - always happy to be used as a successful exam...Heh - always happy to be used as a successful example. :) I definitely have no platform (or not much of one), and as far as I know that wasn't a factor as far as the contracts went. I sold on voice (and with a fair amount of luck).<br /><br />And I agree one hundred percent on all your points Jeffe. I missed the big bru-ha-ha on Twitter, but I would have chimed in if I'd seen it. I really dislike it when people deal in absolutes, because there aren't any - and everyone's definition of success differs.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08810952821295312008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-16035010021998641362010-12-03T11:33:49.313-07:002010-12-03T11:33:49.313-07:00Thanks for your input, Danica - your story is a go...Thanks for your input, Danica - your story is a good cautionary tale. That's the best part of our community - you *can* find people to ask and people will share with you. <br /><br />That's right, Linda - always good advice.<br /><br />Thanks, Lisa! I'm already following your blog, missy, though it looks like you haven't posted in a while...Jeffe Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04779020656676094853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-57415124519567801512010-12-03T11:21:43.250-07:002010-12-03T11:21:43.250-07:00So true Jeffe!!!
Great blog today!
Thanks for th...So true Jeffe!!!<br /><br />Great blog today!<br /><br />Thanks for the heads up too...<br /><br />Lisa<br /><br />PS - I just moved my blog and I'm adding you to the links... Stop by when you can! :) http://lisakessler.wordpress.comLisa Kesslerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06209324744019368067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-10838631550822518812010-12-03T11:08:56.661-07:002010-12-03T11:08:56.661-07:00Wow. Interesting. Always be wary of people who spe...Wow. Interesting. Always be wary of people who speak in absolutes, and profess to know all the answers. Best to look deeper, and see what's in for them.Linda G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04576828490765434497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-56648308722629314352010-12-03T09:54:13.478-07:002010-12-03T09:54:13.478-07:00Those are great points to make, Jeffe. When I had ...Those are great points to make, Jeffe. When I had dinner with the family this week to celebrate being published, my 19-year-old nephew asked me if the publisher was legit. I was glad he asked because it is a very valid question. Before I even sent my submission to Siren, I did a lot of research on the various publishers out there and thought they would fit my stories well. You can't just grab whatever's out there because you will be burnt. Trust me, I know. I have orphaned author syndrome and the person I went with was with a very respected agency. Don't take anything at face value. Research, ask questions of people published/represented before making big decisions.Danica Avethttp://danicaavet.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-7995887580386303432010-12-03T09:39:30.128-07:002010-12-03T09:39:30.128-07:00That's a good way to put it, Ann Marie. the &q...That's a good way to put it, Ann Marie. the "One True Path" preachers nearly always have ulterior motives. You're right - the key is listen to lots of people and make considered decisions.Jeffe Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04779020656676094853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-14417528847465916312010-12-03T09:32:44.563-07:002010-12-03T09:32:44.563-07:00There are lots and lots of kinds of presses out th...There are lots and lots of kinds of presses out there, and many routes to a success than can be defined many ways, so I hate to see people making these One True Path pronouncements. It's good to be able to take enough time to listen to more than one person, and then consider all the comments rather than just the ones that fit into a particular worldview.Ann Marie Gamblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15524023358327369037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-37272604353029252852010-12-03T09:17:17.870-07:002010-12-03T09:17:17.870-07:00Sure thing, Jillian!Sure thing, Jillian!Jeffe Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04779020656676094853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-51552179531505831382010-12-03T09:15:36.173-07:002010-12-03T09:15:36.173-07:00It was, Tawna. The whole "oh, even Donald Mas...It was, Tawna. The whole "oh, even Donald Mass isn't real and you'll never get an agent anyway" approach just left me fuming.Jeffe Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04779020656676094853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-2371441603502887922010-12-03T09:14:52.141-07:002010-12-03T09:14:52.141-07:00WOW! Thanks for sharing this, Jeffe.WOW! Thanks for sharing this, Jeffe.Jillianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08153037458860004412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2570797399734382213.post-87459804079038660282010-12-03T09:11:00.701-07:002010-12-03T09:11:00.701-07:00Eeew. The whole situation sounds slimy to the poin...Eeew. The whole situation sounds slimy to the point that I want to go take a shower now.<br /><br />TawnaTAWNA FENSKEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11468819219529035563noreply@blogger.com